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Exploring Mormon Thought: The Problems With Theism And the Love of God (vol. 2)

Exploring Mormon Thought: The Problems With Theism And the Love of God (vol. 2)

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Author: Blake T. Ostler
Publisher: Greg Kofford Books Inc
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Avg. Customer Rating: 5.0 out of 5 stars 4 reviews
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Media: Hardcover
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Pages: 503
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Dimensions (in): 8.9 x 6 x 1.5

ISBN: 1589580958
Dewey Decimal Number: 289
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ASIN: 1589580958

Publication Date: March 2006
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Condition: In volume 2 of the three volume series, Exploring Mormon Thought: The Problems of Theism and the Love of God, Blake Ostler explores issues related to soteriology, or the theory of salvation. He argues that the commitment that God loves us and respects our dignity as persons entails that God must leave us free to choose whether to have a saving relationship with him. He explores the ?logic of love? and argues that the LDS doctrine of a ?war in heaven? embodies the commitment that God leaves us free to choose whether to enter into relationship with God. He explores the nature of inter-personal prayer and the contributions of LDS beliefs to a robust prayer dialogue. He offers a view consistent with LDS commitments that makes sense out of asking God to assist others, to alter the natural environment and to grow in relationship with God. Ostler also argues that in LDS thought ethical principals are not simply commands or grounded in God?s immutable nature. He rejects the traditional view th

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5 out of 5 stars LDS philosophy at its best   April 6, 2008
 2 out of 2 found this review helpful

Blake's second volume continues what he begins in volume 1. Whereas in vol 1 he discusses the attributes of God, here he discusses in depth our relationship with God, and God's love for us. Definitely not an easy read for a beginner in philosophy, but it will definitely have you thinking in new ways concerning God, whether you are LDS or not.


5 out of 5 stars Great follow up to the first volume   March 14, 2008
 2 out of 2 found this review helpful

This is the second volume of Ostler's series "Exploring Mormon Thought". The first volume discussed the attributes of God and did a very thorough job of reviewing not only the Mormon view of God, but also the view of the major Christian theologians.

This volume moves into the relationship of God with man and presents many of the classical problems discussed over the years about this relationship. One example of what he discusses is the problem of prayer; why is it necessary to ask God for what he already knows is best for us? Another example is that he talks about the implausibility of Original Sin. Ostler also relates the various theories of the Atonement. He also tackles the subject of justification by faith and discusses grace and free will.

Most of the differences in Mormon though are related to the LDS belief in the eternity of spirits (pre-existence) and the related non-belief in creation ex-nihilo. This causes a paradigm shift in how one views his or her relationship with God. Ostler's book does an excellent job exploring these differences.

As an LDS person who had not thought much about these questions in the past, this book has been very intellectually stimulating. I can now see what the great theologians of the past have been struggling with and I can now almost carry on a decent discussion on these points with others. It was also interesting to me that many Mormons do not have crystallized views on these subjects, and Ostler did a good job discussing the different LDS perspectives.

I highly recommend this book and series to anyone interested in LDS theology, both LDS and non-LDS should benefit.



5 out of 5 stars Wow!   July 27, 2007
 5 out of 5 found this review helpful

This book shows possibilities in Mormon doctrine that are not found (or at least articulated so well)anywhere else. Most Mormons may not realize or appreciate the fact that there are two views about God's omniscience within Mormonism. The compatibalist view, which is by far the most common, says God knows everything absolutly. The second possible view says that although God knows all possibilities and probabilities, it's logically impossible to know(absolutely)a free act the same way it is logically impossible to make 1+1=5.

If an act is known in absolutely, and there is nothing that can change the act, we therefore we cannot call it a free act; this is simply an illusion that we are free and what we are calling freedom isn't much more than our ignorance of the way we are acting out a pre-scripted play that God has already written. In other words, there is no substantial difference between predestination and absolute foreknowledge(just different words that describe the same thing).Ostler shows how the second view can deepen our relationship with God because our prayers actually matter; they influence God, whereas the compatibalist view says that we can't influence a course that is known absolutely.

There are other reasons to read the book that I will leave up to the reader to find, but whether or not you are convinced by Ostler's arguments, you have to agree that it's one of the best books dealing with Mormonism ever written.



5 out of 5 stars Strongly recommended reading for students of the Mormon faith, scriptures, and theology   June 13, 2006
 12 out of 12 found this review helpful

Exploring Mormon Thought: The Problems Of Theism And The Love Of God by Blake T. Ostler is an informative detailing of the philosophical interpretation of Mormonism and the understanding that in a relationship with God, if God loves us and respects our dignity as individuals, God must then leave us freedom to choose to have a saving relationship with the deity. Introducing readers to a concise presented conceptual interpretation of grace and the traditional views encountered in the strictly structured premises of the Mormon religion, Exploring Mormon Thought offers an intellectually engaging and theologically progressive construct for debates, discussion groups study the theology of the Mormon religion. Exploring Mormon Thought is very strongly recommended reading for students of the Mormon faith, scriptures, and theology.


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