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Baseball Dynasties: The Greatest Teams of All Time | 
enlarge | Authors: Rob Neyer, Eddie Epstein Publisher: W. W. Norton & Company Category: Book
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Avg. Customer Rating: 33 reviews Sales Rank: 121731
Media: Paperback Number Of Items: 1 Pages: 384 Shipping Weight (lbs): 1.4 Dimensions (in): 9.2 x 7 x 1
ISBN: 0393320081 Dewey Decimal Number: 796.357640973 EAN: 9780393320084 ASIN: 0393320081
Publication Date: April 2000 Availability: Usually ships in 1-2 business days Shipping: Expedited shipping available Shipping: International shipping available Condition: Some wear on book from reading, spine creases, wear on binding and pages.
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Amazon.com There are good teams, and there are great teams, and then there are teams that cross into legend where a case can be built for naming them the best team of all time. The Cubs of Tinker to Evers to Chance. The Yankees of Ruth and Gehrig, and later DiMaggio and Dickey, and, later still, Mantle and Maris and Ford, and still later, O'Neill and Jeter and Williams and Cone. The '29 A's, the '55 Dodgers, the '70 Orioles, the Big Red Machine. Rob Neyer and Eddie Epstein identify 15 of these powerhouses, assess the overall stats and individual achievements of each, examine the durability of the numbers, and compare and contrast them relative to one another in an attempt to identify the one team that truly lived up to--and exceeded--its potential to stand alone. It's a fascinating performance, as insightful as it is argumentative. (Neyer, a columnist for ESPN.com, and Epstein, a former baseball exec, don't always see eye to eye, and some of their disagreements are posted as dialogues.) Along the way, they debunk some myths (Mantle's 565-foot home run) and create new stats to test relative performance (one makes Johnny Bench the best catcher of all time--no problem there--with Mickey Cochrane second). Poignantly, they also project some "what-ifs," as in what if Lou Gehrig had stayed healthy for the '39 Yankees. After parsing and reparsing team after team, Neyer and Epstein arrive at their conclusion, and while they pretty much disagree on places 2 through 15, they manage to present a unified front for No. 1. It's a team in pinstripes, but probably not the first--or second--to come to mind. Given the precision with which way they lay out their case, you'll have to work awfully hard to overturn their verdict. --Jeff Silverman
Book Description A must-have for any diehard baseball fan, this lively, authoritative book answers the classic question "Who was the greatest team of all time?" It's a debate nearly as old as the sport itself. Sure, there have been plenty of great baseball teams--but which was the best ever? While it seems like an unwinnable argument, the authors of Baseball Dynasties have risen to the challenge. They took the top fifteen teams of the twentieth century, ran them through rigorous statistical analysis, and threw in some good old-fashioned opinion in their quest to determine, definitively, who was the greatest team in the history of baseball. Looking at continued brilliance over time (no one-season wonders allowed), Hall of Famers on the roster, offensive and defensive production, performance in the postseason, and numerous other tangibles and intangibles, Eddie Epstein and Rob Neyer put each team under the microscope--and picked a winner. Who will come out on top? Was it the 1927 Yankees, the legendary squad blessed with both Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig? Or how about Earl Weaver's 1970 Orioles, who over a three-year span dominated their opponents at a higher level than any other team this century? Full of anecdotes, intriguing facts, and scores of statistics, Baseball Dynasties is a fascinating look at baseball history certain to provoke, entertain, and edify baseball fans of all ages.
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The Best Of The Best May 16, 2008 I bought this book 7 years ago and i don't know how many times i've read it after reading it cover to cover the week i first got it! It's been borrowed by friends and taken on vacations and has started and ended many debates and arguments over the greatest teams in MLB history. It's a unique book with chapters on each team consisting of statistical info like seasonal win-loss records and post season results, pennant races, how they fared against contenders, runs scored & allowed & sabermetric figures like Pythagorean Winning Percentage and Offensive Winning Percentages. The every day lineup for each team is posted and commented on. Bench players are listed too and seasonal stats are given for both. The pitchers get the same treatment and are fully scouted. Then we get to the really fun part like how they were built, what brought them down, most valuable player, worst regular, Hall of Famers, the Pennant Race, the Series and the Ballpark where the team resided. Each team has several essays by the author's on the team's seasonal highlights, important & not so important players & World Series appearances as well as fascinating debates on baseball lore like the recent questioning of the brilliance of the Tinkers to Evers to Chance infield of the 1906 Cubs & what might have been for the immensely talented but tragically flawed Darryl Strawberry. A Must Have for lovers of baseball this will simultaneously keep the hot stove burning and the rain delay blues away.
Great read for stat heads October 10, 2004 1 out of 1 found this review helpful
If you are the type that thinks that pennants are won with 90% guts and a winning attitude, rather than talent, stay away. But if you are a Moneyball fan, you'll like this.
72-74 A's August 9, 2004 1 out of 2 found this review helpful
To Bryan Lutes of Aurora, Illinois: The 72-74 A's are covered in the book. They are covered in Chapter 15. They are one of the fifteen teams that are rated as great dynasties.
Informative, but doesn't answer any age-old questions April 20, 2004 1 out of 1 found this review helpful
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed reading the book, but I found the book to be lacking in continuity. It's a difficult book to read from cover-to-cover due to the abundance of statistical analysis, but all of the number-crunching done in the book is rather anticlimactic. The issue of "who is the greatest team of all time" is handled more as a sidebar than as the main theme of the book. I thought the authors would have been better served discussing the statistical quirks that were generated by the number crunching and different types of `dynasties' discussed (like the 1975-1985 Royals). Instead, we got a lot of different methods to conclude "Boy, those 1961 Yankees sure did hit a lot of homers", which isn't very interesting. In terms of personal opinion, I was disappointed that a 3-peat team like the 1972-1974 A's was left out of the book because they didn't win 100+ games in the regular season. It demonstrated that although there was a plethora of statistical references, the overall criteria as to deciding what constitutes a dynasty was as vague and unexplained as the authors' opinions on the greatest dynasty of all-time.
Sure to start an arguement June 22, 2002 10 out of 10 found this review helpful
Neyer and Epstein's Baseball Dynasties is an entertaining and easy read that is also a thought-provoking book about baseball. Neyer (a regular columnists on ESPN.com) and Epstein (former managment for Orioles and Padres) introduce a method of measuring the dominance of teams -- the SD score. It is a way of estimating whether a team's success was truly a result of being a giant among men -- or whether it was because the talent in the league was so unevenly distributed. They identify 15 of the most dominant teams and break them down -- offense, defense, pitching, bench, how they were built, how the fell, etc. Each chapter is also graced with several small essays discussing fascinating aspects of each team.The book has its flaws. The attributing of each little section to Rob or Eddie could have been left out and makes the book feel choppy. I think it could have benefited by being written after Bill James' book on Win Shares (then again, so could almost every baseball book). It might even have been preferable for them to talk about lesser-known teams or fewers details but more teams. Do we really need more information on the 1927 Yankees? I didn't think so. I also think they should have looked at different KIND of dynasties. For example, teams like the 90's Braves, 80's Cards, 60's Reds, 60's-70's Pirates or 70's-80's Royals that weren't particularly dominating in any one year or short span of years, but were consistently good for a long span of time. Interviews with old-timers would have been nice but probably impractical. But I guess these complaints fall under one category -- the book is way too short. This subject deserves a "Historical Abstracts"-like tome that you could really wade into over the course of a few weeks rather than one you can zip through on the weekend. But the book makes up for these short-comings with the fairness with it treats the topic. You'll realize that the early 50's Yanks weren't that good, despite their five championships. The league was just poorly balanced. You'll realize the early 70's Orioles were truly a great team. It avoids the common trait in "best teams that ever was" arguements of assuming that whatever team dominated the youth of the authors was the best. It's the best book of its type out there.
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