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John Patrick's Craps: So You Wanna Be a Gambler' | 
 enlarge | Author: John Patrick
Publisher: Lyle Stuart
Category: Book
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Avg. Customer Rating:  14 reviews
Sales Rank: 226597
Media: Paperback
Number Of Items: 1
Pages: 324
Shipping Weight (lbs): 0.9
Dimensions (in): 8.2 x 5.4 x 1
ISBN: 0818405546
Dewey Decimal Number: 795.12
EAN: 9780818405549
ASIN: 0818405546
Publication Date: June 1, 2000
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 Dishonest Conman making money on books not gambling. March 20, 2006
1 out of 2 found this review helpful
At the very premiere location on John Patrick's website is this testimonial....
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"Last night I walked away from the casino having turned a $1000.00 bankroll into $8381.00. I'm glad I learned about the WIN GOALS and LOSS LIMITS or I would have blown my $1000 on a few games and tables. Tomorrow, I will do it all over again. I don't ALWAYS turn such a huge profit but I always turn SOME PROFIT each day of gambling under your system. I have even applied your system further than you mention. I am lucky enough to live in a location with a big choice of casinos. If a CASINO is cold for me, I've learned to apply the DISCIPLINE enough to leave that casino and enter another. I've expanded your suggestions beyond just switching TABLES.
I now sometimes think about how the casinos can take such big loses daily from me and I realize that the players who aren't using your system are the ones who are supplying the casinos with the money for my wins. I suggest every player get your books, tapes and NOW DVDs! The only worry I have is that if too many people know your strategies of gambling success, the casinos would soon go out of business because of all the people taking payouts instead of paying loses.
I used to think that your books, tapes, and NOW DVDS were expensive. I now wonder, what was I thinking? I challenge anyone to find an investment that pays off even 1 percent of what the JOHN PATRICK SYSTEM did for me!"
Mick Schofield
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It is total BS. I know for a fact. I wrote it.
I was at his message board and a lot of people were posting negative things about JP which were all being deleted seconds later, including my own.
I then decided to write the outrageous nonsense you see above. Not only was it not deleted, it was elevated to the absolute most premiere area of the site.
I have confronted JP on this many times about him knowingly posting a false story. He knows the testimonial is bologna but he refuses to take it down.
From what I've seen of his products, his central advice is to change tables when you are on a losing streak, the DISCIPLINE he keeps harping on.
His self testimonial "I may not win much but I don't lose much either". This is the most positive thing I have ever heard him say in reference to his own track record.
Not really much of an endorsement if you ask me.
Seriously, I would bet with no fear of losing, that JP's record is of a slow gradual losing of money. Sometimes up for a while, usually down. The overall situation a constant descent.
I don't know how he got so well known to be able to write and sell his useless products but that is his true winfall.
Scratching my head... June 19, 2005
3 out of 6 found this review helpful
...I'm somewhat at a loss as to why John Patrick's books are so popular. To be perfectly honest, I've purchased many of his books, including this one, his book on Advanced Craps, his book on Roulette, just to name a few.
All of his books are basically the same - he presents the reader with the admonishment that discipline is the key to consistent winnings in the casinos. And then he lays out various money management strategies which are really just betting strategies based on progressing pressing one's bets as one is winning.
The problem is...well, with the exception of Blackjack, all of the games for which he writes books have a negative expectation for the player. In layman's terms, no betting strategy will result in a long term win - the only thing these betting strategies will do is alter one's bankroll fluctuations.
To be fair, I found his Craps book to be entertaining and I have used one of his strategies (which can basically be summed up as play the pass line, take the odds, place the 6/8) but I did so not because of any expectation of winning in the long run, but for entertainment (Craps is, admittedly, one of the most entertaining games in the casinos).
I'm somewhat at a loss as to why John Patrick's books seem to sell so well. They all really just present the same "information" (his admonishment for players to be disciplined and his betting strategies) for games in which players really have no chance of netting a long term win. To make matters worse, his Blackjack book contains errors in its basic strategy tables. Speaking of Blackjack, there is a wealth of good information out there on this game by authors such as Arnold Snyder and others which present good, solid counting strategies which can yield a player a long term expectation. There is also a winning method for roulette published by Laurence Scott. However, all these methods require the player to actually put forth some sort of real effort (Laurence Scott's method alone made me want to puke when I thought of the effort required to put it into practice) rather than relying on a mindless betting progression. I guess there's a message in there somewhere.
 DO NOT PLAY CRAPS UNTIL YOU'VE READ THIS BOOK! September 4, 2004
1 out of 2 found this review helpful
John Patrick forgot more about the game of craps than most of us know. This book will make you a stronger player no matter what your level may be. His advice is invaluable to all gamblers but especially to the non-professional craps player. Even if you've been playing the game for fifty years, you will benefit from the no nonsense common sense observations here. This book will more than pay for itself immediately on your next visit to a casino. It takes you from a kindergarten to a Ph.D. level. The novice can become an excellent player from this one book. Buy it. You'll be sorry if you don't.
The Patrick System is first-rate February 28, 2004
2 out of 3 found this review helpful
None of the previous reviewers have mentioned the most important thing about this book: the Patrick System. This method of playing craps, which he explains about two thirds of the way through the book (and which begins with the brilliant move of betting both the "Pass Line" AND "Don't Pass" at the same time!!) gives the bettor the lowest vig (best odds) against the house of any system I know...
A waste of time July 22, 2002
5 out of 16 found this review helpful
John Patrick's gambling strategy espouses a risk averse philosophy that does little to help the player in the long run. For example, he advocates placing the any craps bet to hedge the pass line wager. Any "gambling expert" can tell you that hedging does not work. Furthermore, the house edge on the any craps bet is over 11%!
Another problem with his book is the "big four". First of all, money management "systems" have no effect on the long term winnings of the player. No matter what "system" the player uses, his/her winnings will fall on a curve dictated by the expectation of the game being played. According to Patrick, however, they are a cardinal rule to gambling success. Lastly, trends can only be seen in hindsight. If you are interested in learning craps, buy another book.
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